Comments on “An Evaluation of Hurricane Superintensity in Axisymmetric Numerical Models”

Author:

Makarieva A. M.12,Nefiodov A. V.1,Sheil D.3,Nobre A. D.4,Chikunov A. V.5,Plunien G.6,Li B.-L.2

Affiliation:

1. a Theoretical Physics Division, Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, Saint Petersburg, Russia

2. b USDA–China Ministry of Science and Technology Joint Research Center for Agroecology and Sustainability, University of California, Riverside, Riverside, California

3. c Faculty of Environmental Sciences and Natural Resource Management, Norwegian University of Life Sciences, Ås, Norway

4. d Centro de Ciência do Sistema Terrestre, Instituto Nacional de Pesquisas Espaciais, São José dos Campos, Brazil

5. e Princeton Institute of Life Sciences, Princeton, New Jersey

6. f Institut für Theoretische Physik, Technische Universität Dresden, Dresden, Germany

Abstract

AbstractIn a recent paper Rousseau-Rizzi and Emanuel (2019) presented a derivation of an upper limit on maximum hurricane velocity at the ocean surface. This derivation was based on a consideration of an infinitely narrow (differential) Carnot cycle with the warmer isotherm at the point of the maximum wind velocity. Here we show that this derivation neglected a significant term describing the kinetic energy change in the outflow. Additionally, we highlight the importance of a proper accounting for the power needed to lift liquid water. Finally, we provide a revision to the formula for surface fluxes of heat and momentum showing that, if we accept the assumptions adopted by Rousseau-Rizzi and Emanuel (2019), the resulting velocity estimate does not depend on the flux of sensible heat.

Publisher

American Meteorological Society

Subject

Atmospheric Science

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